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 Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: I want to introduce myself |
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Hello everyone,
I wanted to thank Jenifer for inviting me to this forum. I hope to learn and exchange ideas.
Soooooooooo hello everyone.
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Jenifer Johnson
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| Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome aboard Cindy, you won't have to worry about someone telling you they will pray for you, as their only rebuttal.
Hopefully you will want to make this your home.  |
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| Are u an anarchist as well ct? |
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Jenifer Johnson
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| DavidHenry wrote: | | Are u an anarchist as well ct? |
Anarchism is only the left side of the dialectic process used in the left/right paradigm to promoting the need for a counter to the false right side, called government.
In is not about the false construct of left versus right, it is about the real construct of right versus wrong. |
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| No JJ, anarchy is well defined as the absence of Government, so please stop re-defining words to cater for your warped ideology. |
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Jenifer Johnson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| DavidHenry wrote: | | No JJ, anarchy is well defined as the absence of Government, so please stop re-defining words to cater for your warped ideology. |
Government is a false construct, so the absence of a false construct, doesn't make anarchism exist.
Without the existence of the concept of government, there would be no such thing, as something defined as "the absence of Government", just as without the existence of theism, there would be no such thing as atheism. You somehow understand that theism is a false construct, but can't wrap your mind around the fact that anarchy can only be, your own inability to function in reality, because your inability to function in reality has no affect on mine. |
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| Jenifer Johnson wrote: |
Government is a false construct, so the absence of a false construct, doesn't make anarchism exist. |
No, gov is a false construct in your opinion...granted Gov is loaded with corruption, but that's due to the floating ethics and worship of the mighty dollar.
Anarchy is defined as the absence of an external authority, and that's exactly what you advocate, as such, you fit the description perfectly.
You've got plenty of bad habits JJ, but re-defining words will only get you so far, and nowhere with me.
You have no rational answers for how a society would operate without laws/insurance/gov/police etc, yet expect people to take you seriously, and also have the nerve to shout down at us lesser folk and declare us to be criminals from the vantage point of your irrational ideology. |
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Jenifer Johnson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: |
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All legitimate authority resides in the individual. There is no way to achieve legitimate external authority among adults, therefore any construct used through fraud, deception or manipulation, is a crime against humanity.
You have only substituted one false construct for another in order to carry out your own fraud, deception, and manipulation. |
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Jenifer Johnson wrote: | | All legitimate authority resides in the individual. |
That's why we have a vote.... |
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Jenifer Johnson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| DavidHenry wrote: | | Jenifer Johnson wrote: | | All legitimate authority resides in the individual. |
That's why we have a vote.... |
The only way one can get someone else to do what they want, is by their consent. No matter how the vote turns out those that voted "no" or never voted didn't give their consent.
I can't vote your individual rights and sovereignty away from you. If I can't, then no collective can. |
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Jenifer Johnson wrote: |
No matter how the vote turns out those that voted "no" or never voted didn't give their consent.
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The nature of a democracy is acceptance of the will of the people, ie, majority rules......and in an ideal world there's no better system, and you're free to live elsewhere if u happen to find one or more decisions so distasteful.
It'd be different if anarchy was a viable alternative to democracy, but since it isn't, and since democracy is without question the best system, you'll just have to live with some decisions or leave. |
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Jenifer Johnson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| DavidHenry wrote: |
The nature of a democracy |
Is three men and one woman deciding on who gets bloody thirds.
Another false constuct. |
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Jenifer Johnson
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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| DavidHenry wrote: |
It'd be different if anarchy was a viable alternative to democracy,. |
Adulthood is the alternative. |
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DavidHenry
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| Jenifer Johnson wrote: | | DavidHenry wrote: |
The nature of a democracy |
Is three men and one woman deciding on who gets bloody thirds.
Another false constuct. |
If you feel that repulsed by one decision or series of them, then you're free to leave..........so what's your problem? |
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Jenifer Johnson
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:21 am Post subject: |
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| DavidHenry wrote: | | then you're free to leave |
Don't have to leave. I'm not the one, who is committing the crime against humanity. |
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